Tuesday, January 27, 2009

Tough Love for the Car Industry?

Examine the BBC news report regarding the car industry and the bailout plan. Do you agree with this decision? What do you think needs to be done? cite your source and be specific.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7852559.stm

21 comments:

  1. This sucks, why the hell do we need stricter laws on our cars? As some who loves the classic cars with the big old blue smoke cloud that saunters out of the exhaust every time the gas pedal is pressed, I see absolutely no reason to go any further. I also ride dirt bikes and love it. But the problem I face is that every time they tighten their noose on the car emissions standards they do so to us dirt bikers too. They either close down riding areas that have been RIDING areas for well over 30 years. But all they care about is shutting down a park where know one goes to because of the asbestos that is covering the ground. Us dirt bikers don't mind it, a little cancer causing agents never hurt, but fore some reason all of OUR riding grounds are being restricted or closed. So this goes beyond cars and their emissions to us dirt bikers. And trust me it sucks.

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  2. I totally disagree with Jake. Classic cars, and dirt bikes might be nice, but are they really worth the damage they can do the economy? We can't continue to kill the enviorment. We need tougher emission standards, and it doesn't look to far off here in California. President Obama is going to grant California the right to make are own emission standards, and that will most likely be adopted by the Federal government.

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  3. I believe that the car industries got what they paid for. I agree with Max about the fact that all of these cars that are on the road today are just causing more greenhouse gases. America is taking a step in the right direction in its effort to increase the ozone layer. Many companies are going green, why shouldn't the car compaines. The car compaines knew what they were getting into when they were manufacturing the cars. With the car companies in bad business, people are going to be a lot healthier. Americans will be forced to exercise more often, with fewer cars in production, this means less cars on the road. More bicycles in use, means less obesity, diabities, heart problems, and greenhouse gases.
    I think Obama needs to keep up the good work and change America for the better. There should be a law against driving cars that release lots of fuel immission, and have a very low MPG. "For environmentalists, the president's action is an unequivocal cause for celebration - a sign he means to walk the walk on the green agenda and overturn years of indifference."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7852559.stm

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  4. I agree with Max and Jake. Dirt biking is a sport and taking away a sport that someone loves is just wrong. haha. But then again all these things like classic cars do hurt our enviornment more. But i mean what about trucks with black smoke coming out when they drive days transporting prducts. Taking away these cars like Ford, will just be more jobs lost, but i mean what else is new with our economy everyone is getting laid off. The country wil loost its industry if they do decide to close it down.
    " Are we going to blame the auto workers... or are we going to take a look at what's happened to our economy, to the housing crunch?" Ron Gettelfinger says (United Auto Workers president) I feel closing down such a big business to save the enviornment and this whole this about "going green" will not help the probably a lot only a little.

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  5. I also agree with Max. I think that we need some more restrictions on fuel emissions. Yes, within the past year the environment has taken a back-seat to the economy or job stability in public opinion, but that does not make it any less important. America already consumes 25% of the world's commercial energy. 29% of that is used for transportation. That is a lot. I see no reason why we should not at least try to cut down on our emissions. Because in the long run, it really isn't worth ruining the planet.
    http://energy-conservation.suite101.com/article.cfm/american_energy_sources_and_uses_of_energy
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7852559.stm

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  6. I think we are going in the right direction to make the environment a safer place than it was before. We are finally starting to realize that those hummers and those big trucks aren't worth it. We started to realize that hybrids are the way to go. They save gas and they are much more friendly to the environment unlike those monster cars. Obama is taking the right steps to get this nation back economically and is working with his colleagues to make decisions that are best for the nation. Obama's decision could lead to tougher fuel emission standards but I think it is better for the future. Now America will have to buy cars that meet the standards which means there should be less cars on the road which could be good or bad.

    "For environmentalists, the president's action is an unequivocal cause for celebration - a sign he means to walk the walk on the green agenda and overturn years of indifference".

    Obama wants to make this country into a greenhouse and have fuel emission standards for cars so their won't be so much pollution. Also I agree with Max's statement that we need tougher emission standards. We need those big cars to decrease because we can't just ruin the planet. Go green.

    Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7852559.stm

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  7. Good ideas guys, but I constantly wonder at the price it takes from other industries, ie: education. I wish I could "track the car industry spending" Where do all the billions go?

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  8. Obama's decision is interesting because it will benefit our community for the better. The point of them saying that the jobs losses have been 2000 is sad but we have to take jobs away to make new jobs for other people. I think that the new fuel standards, will be better for our environment and will benefit us more in the feature. I say LETS GO GREEN!

    "As the US economy has grown worse, opinion polls suggest that green issues have slipped down the public's list of concerns."

    I feel that this new idea is true however, if you think about it the more green you go the more you save in the long run for example hybrid or electric cars, solar power will cut down your bill and make you pay way less. I think Obama's decision will help us in the long run.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7852559.stm

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  9. I think that the direction Obama is leading us is for the better. We need more fuel-efficent cars that will not hurt the environment and will bring us to a cleaner future. A year ago the environment was a top priority to 56% of Americans and because of our current situation it has gone down to 41%. People need to get serious about going green again because the environmental problems have yet to be solved.I also do understand that people are nervous about job security but the jobs being lost now will be replaced by new, green jobs. I think for things to get better they need to get worse and hit bottom. From that point there is nowhere to go but up and hopefully they learn from the mistakes being made, this is what needs to happen to the car industry today.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7852559.stm

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  10. Kyle and I believe that what Obama is doing with tightening the restrictions on the fuel emissions is a good thing with helping our environment but this could create problems with the jobs of other people. Obama wanted to help the environment but is it the right time to do this. We believe that we should focus at the situation at hand that people are losing their jobs and they don't need more people out in the streets looking for jobs. We both support what Obama is trying to do with the environment, and we believe that cars that are not fuel efficient shouldn't be out there but not at this moment we should create more jobs not take away anymore.

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  11. I support what Obama is doing because there should be better cars in California because the environment is damaged enough. If people still have an old car that emmitts huge amounts of smog, then they should buy a new car which saves them gas and not damage the environment as much. President Obama is allowing California to set our own standards. This could make people lose their jobs but it can also help make more green jobs because we will need people to build new cars and make more gas stations for those cars that use different fuel. They should still allow those classic cars but it should have a restriction on when you can drive it.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7852559.stm

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  12. I believe America is going in the right direction by granting California the right to make are own emission standards. We need to be very environmentally conscious the way things are looking. The ozone layer is deterioration and if we want our grandchildren to be healthy and safe we should do all we can to prevent more greenhouse gases. The car industry is smart. They have caught on to the green movement and I have seen a lot of hybrid cars out on the road. Not only are the more environmentally friendly, but they cost more and are more desirable. This can boost their sales income and boost our economy.

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  13. I do agree with Obama's decision, because our country needs to be more careful with the environment. More furl-efficient and hybrid cars are needed to do this. However, I do feel for the General Motors Company because of the 2,000 employees being laid off, but that's how life is, unfair. But think of it this way, that's just one car company out of hundreds more. The world will never run out of cars to sell. Obama is just trying to change that by having the cars better prepped for the environment. So far, Obama is doing a good job as president and I hope there is more good news to come in the future of his presidency.

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  14. In an ideal world I’d like to see better fuel efficiency in California as well as the rest of the United States. If these requirements are for just California they may be accomplished in ways that aren’t desired. Since the average for the automobiles sold in California are looked at by manufacturer there are ways that this can be done that might not be what we want. For instance, the vehicles made available for sale in California could be restricted. For people like me that have horses and cattle, only allowing the sale of ½ ton hybrid pickups would park my trailer. We need real intervention not just vehicles made out of lighter and lighter metal composites.

    The American car manufactures know what is happening in the rest of the world for making advances in green technology. They don’t need higher rates in just California for motivation. What they really need is to restructure their union contract for current and prior employees to be more competitive and thus have more money for R&D.

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  15. I agree with Max. Classic cars are nice, but our taking a toll on the economy. We should take any steps necessary to bring us to a cleaner enviroment. I also agree with Robertino. This should not be our first priority. People are suffering because of the amount of decrease in job opportunities and the loss of jobs. That is definately a more important problem. I agree with Andrea, things need to get worse before they get better.

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  16. I agree with President Obama’s decision, we need to be a greener country for our future. I think it needs to be done, however others seem to be strictly against it. "The federal government should not be piling on an industry already hurting in a time like this,” stated Ohio Senator Voinovich. Although the auto industry is in deep trouble right now, this may be the thing to boost their dire situation. Greener cars are, on the shallow surface, the “hip cars” of the now, get Brittany to sport one and fuel efficient cars will sweep the nation. Priuses did well for a reason, people want to be fuel efficient, and want to help salvage our future. Just because it isn’t convenient at the time, doesn’t mean nothing should be done. When is there ever going to be a convenient time to bring it up? Our recession is predicted to last for a time, whether it be months, or sadly years. “Will the retro-fitting of cars, to meet the new fuel standards, really create the number of new, green jobs that the administration hopes it will?” In response to the writer’s vague rhetorical question ending, I do believe that this will spark up new jobs. New industry, and new technology sparks up jobs for people to pursue greener technology. Although this new take, may be adding to the “Christmas tree” bailouts, I think this is much needed relief for our environment. We need it!

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  17. I feel like we are headed in the right direction by granting California the right to make emission standard decisions. Times have changed and we are more conscious and concerned about our environment and our planet's future. Driving large cars, for example Hummers for commercial use, leads to fuel waste and more pollution. Green cars or hybrids are better choices today because they create less harmful fuel or CO2 emissions than regular or larger cars. They are affordably priced and can go for the same price or cheaper than a regular car. New teen drivers should consider efficient cars instead of monster gas hogs, to preserve their futures.

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  18. I agree with Max that although classic cars and motorbikes might be part of America's history of past-times, they now have negative effects on our environment. It is time to get tougher on fuel emissions so that all of California doesn't become as polluted as L.A. Any type of bill that creates more jobs in our economy, especially now, sounds good to me. Especially if its benefiting our environment and these new ideas may lead to people being more active, riding bikes or walking, also helping cities by using public transport.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7852559.stm

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  19. I agree with Adam and Max that we do not need classic cars and dirtbaikes harming the economy and the environment. Jake, cancer causing agents DO HURT because they CAUSE cancer. Even though it seems like everyhting causes cancer these days, ther is no need to add to it. I feel that emissions laws should be enforced to prtoect the people and improve our economy and environment.

    Obama is already trying to improve things. HIs plan has made car companies mad and there will definitely be a fight in court. It is a good plan and idea to make cars more efficient because it will allow people to save money.

    "He will also order federal departments and agencies to find new ways to save energy and be more environmentally friendly. And he will highlight the elements in his $825 billion economic stimulus plan intended to create jobs around renewable energy."-JOHN M. BRODER and PETER BAKER

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/26/us/politics/26calif.html

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  20. I do believe this is a good idea. While I understand that the car industry is hurting, I think that the industry should look toward the future. Fuel efficiency is very important, even though it has dropped down on the priority list when buying a car. The car industry needs “tough love”. For too long have they not been held accountable for their actions and now that they are taking federal bailout money, I believe that the government and the American people should have more of a say of what happens to that money.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7852559.stm

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  21. President Obama spoke the other day at his 100 days press conference about how he doesn't like taking care of the car industry when he has so many other problems to deal with. It seems like it's viewed as a not ideal but necessary idea. President Obama is allowing the Environmental Protection Agency to consider allowing California to increase fuel efficiency benchmarks for cars. The article asks the question "By forcing the pace (or helping California to force the pace) of fuel efficiency standards, are the federal authorities jump-starting the car industry's efforts to regain its place as a global innovator and prolonging its survival? " I think in some ways yes this is true. American cars like GM & Chevrolet have not been very popular compared to car companies like Honda, Toyota, & Lexus for some time now. For the sake of the environment and buying American goods, the federal government does appear to be doing this.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7852559.stm

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