Wednesday, October 8, 2008

The Second Presidential Debate Dud ?

So, the Bloggers and the CNN network news had a lot so say. What I want to know is what you have to say. If you had to call it "winner-loser" who would be the victor and why? Use the bbc.com news. Did they answer the questions enough for you to vote their way? Explain the reasons why you were swayed based on their answers. Choose: bail out, war, or health insurance.

18 comments:

  1. I think the victor of the debate was Barrack Obama. He is the victor because on some topics, he made McCain look dull. For example when Barrack Obama brought up the issue of health care, McCain was mumbling words because he didn't have a statement to fire back. Also in the debate, when McCain was asked a question he went off topic so many times and he kept saying "my fellow friends" too many times. All McCain was doing is talking smack about Obama and basically in desperation. Obama also was talking smack about McCains ideas but that is because McCain started the election by saying "this is not Barrack Obama's plan, this is not George W. Bush's plan, it is my plan and it is going to work". Of course Barrack Obama wouldn't let that fly by and he accused McCain of copying Bush administration policies that led the nation into this mess in the first place. Obama was clear on what he wanted to do and he called for Congress to pass an economic stimulus package, and the poll showed that Obama was ahead on all the main topics espeically on economy. Looks like to me that Barrack Obama is winning this election.

    Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7659371.stm

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  2. I believe that Obama had won the battle in the presidential debate, he seemed to pinpoint more issues that the people wanted to hear about, rather than just talk about what he felt was important. Obama talked about the war in Iraq, and he said that the only way for this country to get it's economy back up and running, we needed to get out of Iraq. All the money going towards the Iraqui war could be used for other purposes such as health care, welfare, just to name a few. I agree with Obama that this country needs to get out of Iraq, we need to get our soldiers back home, not only for the sake of the united states, but also for the sake of Iran. Innocent children are killing themselves in Iraq because of this war. Both Obama and McCain did not pinpoint all the issues, that this country needs to work on, like the economic crisis, neither Obama or McCain have an official plan to get this country back to the way it was,economically. From the looks of it Obama is winning the presidential election, and we will have our first African-American President in the history of America. So far in the polls Barack Obama is leading John McCain by 11%, in the daily Gallup pole.

    Source:http://www.news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7660792.stm

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  3. In my opinion, I think that Obama won the debate a few days ago. Although both candidates got their facts mixed up, I think Obama did better. When he said that he wrote many letters addressing the economy issue in 2007, I thought that it would be proven to be a lie, yet it wasn't. However to the public, his letters weren't sent in enough time. I'm not particulary
    a fan of McCain, especially after he chose Palin as his running mate, but I think his massive downfall, was when he called Obama, "that one". Not a good idea. Also I think that when he told Obama he didn't understand, Obama retorted impecably, with how he didn't understand, about how we went to Iraq, when 9/11 had nothing to do with it. That comment flew high in my mind, because it turned a comment that was suppposed to be an attack into a counterattack. Obama's campaign manager said "John McCain was all over the map on the issues, and he is so angry about the state of his campaign that he referred to Barack Obama as 'that one' — last time he couldn't look at Sen. Obama, this time he couldn't say his name." Obama directly sent fire back to McCain, "That was Senator McCain's judgment and it was the wrong judgment". Judgement is everything in the election, decisions a candidate made years ago will effect his candidacy today.

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  4. I think that Barack Obama won the debate on Tuesday night. When people from the audience asked him questions, he answered quickly and precisely. When people from the audience asked John McCain questions, he answered some of them with mumbling; probably because he couldn't think of an answer that would satisfy the audience. Obama also touched on topics that are very important in our country right now, like the economic crisis and the war in Iraq. I support his idea that the best thing for the U.S. is to get out of Iraq. The money going toward the war in Iraq can go towards welfare, the economy, health insurance, etc. Matt Spetalnick of Reuters.com reported that Obama was leading the national opinion polls and in several states that hold the key to the election. Obama has built a 4-point lead according to today's poll. As a result, McCain released a new video ad that tries to create a tie between Obama and William Ayers, a founder of the Weather Underground, a radical left anti-Vietnam War group that bombed the U.S. Capitol and Pentagon in the early 1970's. From the looks of it, McCain seems pretty desperate to gain the poll lead. It looks like Obama will be a favorite to win the presidential election.

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  5. forgot to cite my source sorry

    reference: http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE4932E920081010

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  6. In the second Presidential debate, i believe that Senator Obama won that debate. It seemed to me that Obama knew more and was more detailed with his topics. While McCain, it felt like he was struggling trying to memorize his note card. McCain was hamstrung by the format. He didn't manage to bring up the names Bill Ayers or Tony Rezko and afterwards his advisers ruled out that he would raise Jeremiah Wright. Obama has perfected a manner in these debates that is relaxed but serious, confident without being cocky and detailed enough without being wonky. It's serving him well. McCain's manner of delivery, in contrast, is clunky and he sees very tightly wound.

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/toby_harnden/blog/2008/10/08/barack_obama_wins_second_presidential_debate_over_john_mccain_in_a_snoozer

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  7. In my opinion, I believe Obama was the victor of the election. Obama knew most of the facts and answered questions in a positive manner. On the other hand, candidate McCain seemed like he did not know what he was talking about and was uncertain when answering questions. McCain’s ad said Obama 'too risky,' I think that is positive because I rather someone taking chances trying new things rather then sticking to the basics. “Mr. Obama is the first US presidential candidate to buy advertising time on the networks, which did not previously allow political advertising, an MTV spokesman said.” I think this will be positive towards teenagers, influencing them to vote. I was satisfied with Obama when he spoke about the U.S. getting out of Iraq, which will have a positive affect on our economy. Although Obama did state some good things, both McCain and Obama did not discuss any stable plans concerning the issues evolving in our economy.



    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7661758.stm

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  8. Honestly, I believe John McCain did better than Barack Obama in this past debate. Yeah some of his point were not complete, but I honestly think that Obama is not ready to be the president. He thinks he can make life better for us, and make changes. Whose to say he isn't just saying that to get the voters vote? How can we know for sure that he will make the changes he says? We don't. Also I believe that because he does not have as much in his past that has to deal with America's politic's, he is no where near as ready as McCain. McCain well, he has served in the military. I will say however that my opinion on this matter does weigh heavily on the fact that I am not a huge fan of Obama in any way. But that is my take on who "won" this debate.

    *I did not look at any site I have just payed attention to the news and stuff.

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  9. In my opinion I think Senator Barack Obama won this debate. I feel that he can relate with regular americans and he presents himself well. I feel like McCain can never really answer the question completely and Obama can give us some idea of his plans to take the US in a good direction. Obama's position on the war in Iraq is to bring back the troops. He wants to use the money we would spend on the war to good uses and things that actually will help us here. I think McCain really needed this win to even stay in the game but Obama is just ready and I think more prepared to be president. Voting for Obama means change and I think that is exactly what we need right now.

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  10. Obama won the debate because Obama answered his questions with confidence while McCain had some mumbling answers. Obama was more detailed in his answers and McCain had some trouble answering his questions. Obama answered questions that people wanted to hear and not what he felt was important. Obama was ready and well prepared for the debate but McCain was not because he did not give direct answers.

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  11. In my opinion, Barack Obama won the second presidential debate. He seemed to be much more prepared than John McCain and he talked about topics that the American people are worried about such as the war, the economic crisis and health care. I support his idea that our country should remove our troops from Iraq. All of the money we are spending on the war overseas is needed to fix our broken economy at home. Obama was leading the opinion polls in important states and after this poll, McCain felt threatened and let out a new video that attempts to show a relationship between Obama and a leader of a Vietnam War group that bombed important US buildings in the 1970's. I think Obama will win the election because of his strong support from the youth of America and his strong ideas to remove our troops.

    http://www.news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7660792.stm

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  12. I believe Barrack Obama won the debate over John McCain. Obama answered questions very quickly and in detail, while McCain mumbled through many of his questions. Obama also brought out his wild card when he began talking about healthcare. McCain seemed stumped. The American people can tell that McCain has no real plans of his own. He is just going to follow the same plans set in place by our current President, and those plans obviously haven't worked.

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  13. I think McCain was the winner. He seemed to have his talking points down pretty well. How ever both party's did seem pretty pathetic. While they tried to convince you of their view points, it was largely unsuccessful. They really were trying to put some effort into their debate but Obama and McCain started to look and sound similar, and the only difference was what they were saying.

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  14. Obama I think explained himself very well. He knows McCain would just repeat the past about the debate and all the answer he had explained. Obama wants a change for the people and McCain is just wanting people to vote for him. He is saying all this stuff like creating more jobs which will cost more money. Obama is wanting to destroy the Al Queda and help rebuild Afganistan. While McCain just wants to win the war. I think Obama won this debate because he explained to us his new health insurance policy which was to let people choose there own provider and every child will be provided for it. Also children under 25 can still be under their parents insurance plan.


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  15. I think Obama did a better job at explaining his points. He answered all the questions very quickly and clearly. McCain seemed confused on the topic of Healthcare. Obama seems like he would change everythings in a better way. If McCain became president I think we would stay in the same situation we are in now and with no good solution. I agree with Obama that we should bring our troops back home. Obama is taking us in a good direction.

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  16. I think Obama won the debate against McCain. Obama seemed to answer the questions the people were asking and McCain kept talking about other things that really didn't matter. It seemed like Obama was more detailed with his answers and had a plan and McCain had a vision but really didn't know how to attack it. Even though in my opinion Obama did better, he still didn't know how to get our country back on their feet and out of this economic crisis we are going through. Neither McCain or Obama really have a good plan. But I do agree with Obama and how we need to get our soldiers out of Iraq. The war in Iraq is eating away our money, and if we got all the soldiers out, we could use the money for more important things like health care and education. I would feel very comfortable with Obama being our president, because I feel like he has really good intentions and that he will do everything in his power to get us back onto our feet again.

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  17. I feel like Obama won this debate. He stayed on target and made his plans to reform America appealing to the people. Although McCain had some strong remarks and plans, he was alittle too vauge with his ideas and wasnt providing a clear, concreate vison for those watching. Also, I feel that Obama cares very much for the well-being of the American people and wants to focus his ideas and changes arround the people and what they want, where as McCain was more inline with promoting business and giving tax breaks to people of higher income, and he believed that bussines and rich people will have more insentive to promote business, so the economy will be busier, create more jobs, and more opportunities for others. I also think that Obama will come out on top because his ideas are different than the traditional Republican ones that our country has been following for the last eight years, and our economy is in the dumps. People are afraid for the same ideas because they do not want our economy to be in even more debut. Lastly, I also agree with Lexi and Obama's plan to get the troops out of war. It is using too much money and we are loosing troops, and to pull out is our best bet.
    I feel like our nation is ready for change and needs to experience a Democratic government for a little bit now, and i think there is no better candidate than Obama.

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  18. Overall, I believe that Obama won the second presidential debate. Obama wondered in the debate why we are in a war with a country who had nothing to do with the horrific events of 9/11 and was disappointed in McCain supporting the war in Iraq and felt that the money spent going towards Iraq should be used to fix problems in the US. I agree with Barack's view on that. When asked about what issue they would focus on first: health care, social security, and energy, McCain said he would try to do all at once. Obama then said he would focus on energy and then health care. I give McCain credit that he wants to try and fix everything, however in some cases we have to pick and focus on what's most pressing at the time. That's why I liked Obama's strategy better. And also, McCain was rude when he was talking about treasury secretary appointments and said "Not you" to Tom Brokaw and when he might not have shaked Obama's hand.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7658335.stm

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